tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2675276272361534045.post632960146012656926..comments2024-01-07T23:50:30.035-06:00Comments on Tony's thoughts....: China, Taiwan, what independence?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2675276272361534045.post-76660090375254239142008-11-11T08:01:00.000-06:002008-11-11T08:01:00.000-06:00With all due respect, I must point out that beatit...With all due respect, I must point out that beatitudo has been confused by sixty years of Chinese propaganda. I repeat: Taiwan is not a part of China.<BR/><BR/>This is easily confirmed by noting that (1) none of the leading world nations recognized any transfer of sovereignty to Taiwan on Oct. 25, 1945, (2) Taiwan was not awarded to "China" in the post war peace treaties, (3) Taiwan has never been incorporated into Chinese territory via the procedures of Article 4 of the ROC Constitution. <BR/><BR/>Although both the Communist Party and the Nationalist Party believe that Taiwan is a part of "China," there is not legal basis for such claims. There is not even any legal basis for Taiwanese people to be holding ROC passports !!! See http://www.taiwanbasic.com/civil/tstatus.htminsular-twhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13706147738436561454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2675276272361534045.post-23903744531130433012008-11-11T07:35:00.000-06:002008-11-11T07:35:00.000-06:00Your opinion fails to recognize the real state of ...Your opinion fails to recognize the real state of affair in Taiwan. <BR/>From what Taiwan wants to be independent? It is simple; from "China," no matter communist or nationalist; from the megalomaniac illusion of Great China. <BR/>Both Communist Party and Nationalist Party believes that Taiwan is a part of "China," historically and culturally, that is, they believe they inherit five thousands years of Chinese history! This almost crazy pride makes Chinese people arrogant, imperialistic, megalomaniac, and self-centered. Most Chinese see Taiwan as "their" territory, their colony. <BR/>Taiwanese people refuse to be a part of "China." This is what they call independence. It is not an independence from PRC, but from this identity of "China" itself. <BR/>This might look perplexing to Americans, who cannot distinguish Taiwanese from Chinese. But Taiwanese speaks their own language, even though they can speak the imposed language of Mandarin; they have their own culture and history. Most of all, their mentality is very different from mainland people. <BR/>In short, Taiwan is culturally and historically independent from mainland China. President Ma, who is NOT a Taiwanese, cannot see this truth! He wants to cling to the Chinese identity. Taiwanese are angry against this anachronism. This is the central issue.beatitudohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15456161741091328469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2675276272361534045.post-54095414050621919502008-11-07T08:04:00.000-06:002008-11-07T08:04:00.000-06:00they are all chinese for sure. you can differ kore...they are all chinese for sure. you can differ koreans from chinese, from japanese, vietnamese, etc.<BR/><BR/>but chinese and taiwanese? how to differ them?Faidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01516502485915426562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2675276272361534045.post-54074124774297796082008-11-07T02:09:00.000-06:002008-11-07T02:09:00.000-06:00The world's governments do not recognize that Taiw...The world's governments do not recognize that Taiwan is part of China. Most, including the US, believe that Taiwan's status is undetermined, period.<BR/><BR/>MichaelMichael Turtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17974403961870976346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2675276272361534045.post-11708005821395119562008-11-07T00:40:00.000-06:002008-11-07T00:40:00.000-06:00This article fails to mention that when Taiwan had...This article fails to mention that when Taiwan had been an area under military occupation since Oct. 25, 1945, and when the Nationalist ROC government fled there in Dec. 1949, it became a government in exile.<BR/><BR/>Then in the 1952 San Francisco Peace Treaty, the sovereignty of Taiwan was not awarded to China. Hence, (and this may be quite surprising) Taiwan is actually not a breakaway territory of the PRC, it is a breakaway territory of the USA! <BR/><BR/>Yes, Taiwanese people should be holding some form of "US overseas passport." The LEGAL LOGIC of this analysis is fully explained in a new legal Brief filed in the US Court of Appeals on Nov. 3, 2008. For details, see http://www.taiwanbasic.com/civil/court.htminsular-twhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13706147738436561454noreply@blogger.com